Friday, November 29, 2013

HINDU AMERICAN THOUGHTS ON THANKSGIVING DAY


HINDU AMERICAN THOUGHTS ON 

THANKSGIVING DAY

 

(DISCOURSE BY N. R. SRINIVASAN, NASHVILLE, TN, USA.,

NOVEMBER 2013)

Thursday November 28, 2013 is Thanksgiving Day. Thanksgiving Holiday is barely more than a one day big event of gathering, eating, ball game watching, and of course, giving thanks as some people think. This year Hanukah and Thanksgiving merge showing   that secular and religious sentiments can merge. Hindu festivals are often religiously observed and socially celebrated.  Religiously inclined some Hindu Americans also visit Hindu temples in distant towns as temples are kept open all day long on these National Holidays more as a holiday outing and sight-seeing than a day of dedication. They also conduct special poojas with no focus to please the holiday crowds and help temple funds. November is the American Religious Month of thanksgiving--Samhain, All Souls day, Veterans Day, Hanukah and Thanksgiving Day.  This year both Deepavali and Karthigai, Hindu festivals of light were celebrated in November. Hanukah was celebrated along with Thanksgiving In 1888. It may do so after 79043 years as per Jewish estimate. Thanksgiving Day is a great charity day all over USA. Public kitchens are run to feed the poor with hot sumptuous holiday food. Food collection is done by many organizations all over the country.

People of Christian Faith are taught throughout the Old and New Testament of the Bible, Thanksgiving   to God.  But why this is earmarked for a particular day?  Each and every day of our lives should be a day of thanksgiving. Some religiously devoted Christians do this every day at the dining table before taking meals. I have seen my Yoga teacher who is a Christian doing this at the end of every class seeking peace from external disturbances,  peace within  and gift of peace from God which passes all understandings.  To quote from Bible: "Enter into His gates with Thanksgiving, and into His court with praise. Be thankful to Him, and bless His name." (Psalm 100:4) "And when you offer a sacrifice of Thanksgiving to the Lord, offer it of your own free will" Leviticus (22:29). These quotes have prompted them to fix a day for Thanksgiving to focus their attention from their busy lives at least one day in a year and to remember the message given in the Bible. They thank the Natives for their accommodating spirit long after grabbing and driving them to remote corners and repenting for being cruel to them, a late realization. After Thanksgiving, they get back to the grind, and forget how the Lord blesses all of them in so many ways every day. This is true for all others too.

If we look back to the past cultures Peruvian, Mexican, Druid,  Dravidian culture  of Saraswati Valley, Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro it was all one Eternal Tradition or  Sanatana Dharma that  prevailed with civilization  at one time.  It is   perhaps because of this USA named the peaks of Grand Canyon as Brahma, Vishnu, Siva and Brahman driven by an unknown divine thought!  May be because of this divine influence  a magnificent spiritual project HASTINAPURA, started by Ida Albrecht is developing all over Argentina! This should have been the divine inspiration. Recently an ancient   Siva temple in ruins has been discovered in the dense forests of USA. Hinduism had been the religion of the world from the beginning of times. Today it is again spreading in all countries of the world as world religion. The ancient Indians settled in America are known to the world as Red Indians.  Generations of present Kaliyuga   migrated from Bharat traveling through frozen sea between 20000 to 30000 years settled in the continent of America and were called Red Indians say the expert historians.  What makes us think of California as Kapila-aranya, associated with Horse Island, Ash Island,  Sagara's sons (Hindu Puranic story) and the Ocean and America as Aindrakanda in  religious Sankalpas? Is it not our duty to spread the message of Sanatana Dharma, Viswa Shanti (universal peace) and Spirituality once again in this Ancient land? As a matter of fact we are not to join Western culture in thanking the Natives called Red Indians for vacating their possessions to make the Western migrants rich and famous. I am not at all surprised Columbus had identified them as Indians with red color.   Rajoguna is identified with red color and indicates Rajas or egoistic activity. They had to pay for moving away from Sattvaguna (noble character or pure thought) to Rajoguna. Gypsies of Europe are also of Rajoguna dominating Hindu origin stock. They have nothing in common with European culture even today. Americas could have been our land as well if not run over by Western invaders or Conquistadors. We can learn the lesson from Jews who recognized their land after millenniums. We were a cursed lot who became weak, got destroyed or moved out.  Cultured and the wise survived and called themselves Aryan or cultured. Probably we too moved away to propagate or practice Dharma elsewhere! We are back here then again motivated by the divine force. May be we are sent back   to remember our past with a mission to re-establish Spirituality and Universal Oneness of Eternal Tradition for world peace!

Upanishads say that God knows what is good for us and He keeps constant vigil on us. Only our thoughts should be focused on Him every day and every moment in all our actions.  So we do not formally thank him as in believed faiths who ask for all sorts of favors at all times but surrender our will as being subservient to Him. We believe that Karmaphala or fruits of our own action will take its own course.  We need peace of mind to face them boldly and act wisely. We have to pay our obeisance for   the dawn of this wisdom in all of us. We therefore end our prayers everyday with the following:

"Kaayena waacha mansendriyairvaa  |
buddhyaatmanaa vaa prakrite svabhaavat  ||
karomi yadyat sakalm parasmai|
Narayanaya iti samarpayaami ||

Oh! Supreme Lord, Please forgive for any commission or omission on my part in all my actions,  speeches and thoughts and whatever I do I surrender them at your feet". Yet another factor is the concluding prayer is not for the individual alone but a universal prayer:

"Sarve bhavantu  sukhinah|
 sarve santu niraa-mayaah |
sarve bhadraani pasyantu |
maa kaschit duklnaah bhavet ||

May all beings be happy! May all beings be free of disease! May people learn to see good things in others! May none suffer! This prayer is not only for humans but for all living beings, for all round peace and  for keeping the balance of pristine beauty of flora and fauna as expressed in  many other Shanti mantras.   All prayers end with  repeating the word  peace three times, seeking peace from terrestrial  disturbances, external disturbance and internal disturbances turning towards the  Self (Aatman) within us!



Let us slow down, focus our Thoughts, Action and Speech towards the Supreme and thank Him for his mercy and seek his guidance for liberation. Let us concentrate on three D's He smilingly and   silently passed on to us --  Dama, Dayaa and Daana--Self-control, Kindness and Charity (refer to the discourses “Da, Da, Da  from Brihadaaranyaka Upanishad”  (September 2012) and “Thanksgiving Day Celebrations in Hindu Temples of America” (November 2011 In Hindu Reflections:<nrsrini.blogspot.com>

 APPENDIX


THANKSGIVING  IS A SOCIAL CUM RELIGIOUS EVENT FOR HINDU AMERICANS
  [E-Mail sent to HR  Forum Participants on November 23, 2019]
 

Is there justification in celebrating Thanks Giving Holiday in Hindu American Temples observing it as special Religious Events Day?  Past History of USA  reveals we are more indebted to Native  Indians than any other community long before Pilgrim Fathers arrived in the soil who over time conquered the whole land killing many, mainly Conquistadors! It is because of the Natives we see the Brahma, Vishnu and Siva Peaks and ancient Siva Linga in Colorado like  what we  do looking  up to Mount Kailasa and Manasa   Sarovar in the Himalayas. Columbus was not wrong in his outburst to call them Indians when they surprised him by their presence as he landed. I am sure they offered a hot meal too on arrival thinking him  a ship-wreck, the usual Indian courtesy and hospitality as happened in India; when Romans were throwing Jews and Christians to wolves in the arena, they were worshiping in Church and Synagogue in Kerala as early as 50 A.D.!
 
Thanks to our ancestors today Hindus are the fourth largest Religion in USA. Maria Wirth says slowly and steadily the followers of Sanatana Dharma in USA are rapidly growing. You can see a video on YouTube a large crowd in merriment dancing celebrating the event of 7 million people embracing Hinduism in January this year. USA does not ask your religion. Therefore you do not get official statements. It is high time all Dharma oriented religions come together and live in Peace but not in Pieces under the banner of Sanatana Dharma as before highlighted by Jagadguru Chandrasekaharendra Saraswati. It is therefore fitting and proper thanking Native Indians and celebrating Thanks Giving as a Special Religious Day commemorating our past History of Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam, whole world of  One Family Under Only GOD!
 
The ancestors of Native Americans split from Siberians and Asians about  25,000 years ago, perhaps when they entered the now mostly drowned landmass of Beringia, which bridged the Russian Far East and North America. Some populations stayed isolated in Beringia, and Willerslev sequenced one new example of such an "Ancient Beringian," 9000-year-old remains from Alaska's Seward Peninsula. Meanwhile, other groups headed south. At some point, those that journeyed south of the ice sheets split into two groups—"Southern Native Americans" and "Northern Native Americans" (also sometimes called Ancestral A and B lineages), who went on to populate the continents.

Please recall my E- Mail “WE ALL HAVE A MIXTURE OF GENETIC MATERIAL THEN WHY WE FIGHT AS ARYANS AND DRAVIDIANS”  sent recently. Studies using ancient DNA have been rewriting prehistory all over the world in the last few years and in India; there has been  fascinating discovery one after another. All Hindu Americans have a mixture of genetic material based on DNA researches in India and Harvard. The majority of Native Americans are mostly of East Asian ancestry and also significantly of North Eurasian ancestry, what makes them partly connected not only with the Siberians (their closest “cousins”) and the Chinese, but also with the Europeans, mainly those living in northern latitudes (I say the majority because some of them come from later waves of Siberian immigrants, like the Athabaskan and the Inuit tribes).
Recently an ancient Siva temple in ruins has been discovered in the dense forests of USA. Hinduism had been the religion of the world from the beginning of times. Today it is again spreading in all countries of the world as world religion. The ancient Indians settled in America are known to the world as Red Indians. Generations of present Kaliyuga migrated from Bharat traveling through frozen sea between 20000 to 30000 years settled in the continent of America and were called Red Indians say the expert historians. Settling there they worshiped Siva says a research publication Sadathala.
 
Three of the peaks of Grand Canyon are named after Hindu Trinity, Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. A thorough research by Kutch Research Foundation is astonishing as to why it is Called VISHNU Schist mountain layer? Name is given by original tribes of the Red Indians--original GENETICALLY decedents of Asian origin, though they went there about 20,000 years ago by land when north Atlantic was frozen. They believe this place is the place of their worshiping god.”     Ramani’s blog and other Western researchers do support the date of Red Indians to 20000 years as migrants of the ancient land of India. You are perhaps aware of Horse Island ad Ash Island in USA. California is believed to be Kapilaranya (Chandrasekharendra Saraswati) reminding the story of Ikshvaku King Sagara with horse and the burnt out ashes of his sons? So it is reasonable to assume that Rama ruled California too? Gypsies in Europe are also of Indian origin, Jagadguru Chandrasekharendra Saraswati says:
“What we call Hinduism today was the universal religion in the past. Looking at the Practice of Hinduism in many parts of the globe there is no question of certain things being taken from Bharat (Later British Indian Empire) and introduced into another country. In the beginning the Vedic Religion was prevalent all over the world. Later, over the centuries, it must have gone through a process of change and taken different forms. These forms came to be called the original religions of these various lands which in the subsequent period, historical times, came under Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism,  Judaism, Christianity or Islam as the case may be”  
 
The Kingdom of Kush was an ancient kingdom in Nubia, located at the Sudanese and southern EgyptianNile Valley. The Kushite era of rule in Nubia was established after   a century later.  During classical antiquity, the Kushite imperial capital was located at Meroë. In early Greek geography, the Meroitic kingdom was known as Aethiopia. The Kingdom of Kush with its capital at Meroe persisted until the 4th century AD, when it weakened and disintegrated due to internal rebellion. The seat was eventually captured and burnt to the ground by the Kingdom of Aksum. Afterwards the Nubians established the three, eventually Christianized, kingdoms of Nobatia, Makuria and Alodia. (Wikipedia).   If we believe in what Sankaracharya thinks about California then California is part of Ikshvaku  Empire of Sagara days! Ikshavakus have beaten the Briitsh who often boast the Sun never sets in British Empire!
 
The name America was coined by Martin Waldseemüller from Americ Vespucius,  and  denoted the New World. America denoted the Habitat of Native   Indians of the New World who admired Grand Canyon  peaks as Brahman, Brahma, Vishnu Siva and  consecrated and worshiped Sivalinga on the Banks of Colorado River.   The Blessed food they offered to Supreme from the harvest was shared with all including later migrants.  Let us therefore chant the mantra and enjoy Thanks Giving Dinner with all friends of relative of all faiths. Natives brought Sanatana Dharma with them 20000 years ago from their habitat of the land of Himalayas!
 Sangacchadhvam sam vadadhvam sam vo manaamsi jaanataam/ devaa bhaagam yathaa purve sanjanaana upaasate // (X-191-20)
Come together! Speak together! Let our minds be all of one accord like the divines that sat together in the past in harmony to worship.

[All people should live with one mind without enmity and this can be achieved only by the divine grace says the mantra]
 
At this time of Thanksgiving we pause to count our blessings. The freedom of this great country in which we live. It’s opportunity for achievement. Its noble laws for Freedom of Worship.  Its non-interference in religious worship. The friendship and confidence you have shown in us. For all of these things we are deeply thankful. Our best wishes for a Happy Thanksgiving.





As A Native American, Here’s What I Want My Fellow Americans to Know about Thanksgiving



Corinne Oestreich, HuffposthhHUu



Native Americans don’t just live on reservations, we live in cities, and we live internationally. I grew up in the Silicon Valley of California. I was born in the city and have lived here my whole life, as an “Urban Native.” My grandfather moved to California from Mohawk territory in the 1950s after he served in Korea, and we have all lived in Sunnyvale ever since.

The challenges I grew up around were different from my Oyaté (family) out on the reservations. It is easier to lose our sense of culture living among so many established settler communities. If I didn’t find my community, my Native family or my traditional support, I’d get swallowed up by colonialism.

As a child, Thanksgiving was for me what it is for most children ― a day when you spend time with family, talking or thinking about what you’re thankful for. You color some turkey pages and then you eat a lot of food. My family worked really hard to keep the narrative of the dinner between Indians and Pilgrims out of it. The only time I was exposed to this story of a dinner between Pilgrims and Indians was when I was in elementary school. Growing up in an established settler community like the Bay Area, I was not given much perspective on the holiday. I was told: “This dinner happened. Here, wear this paper feather headdress and let’s eat some cookies bought at Safeway.”

If I didn’t find my community, my Native family or my traditional support, I’d get swallowed up by colonialism.

As my younger brother and I grew into adults, we both dove headfirst into learning as much as we could from our elders about our cultures. That desire really intensified after I gave birth to my first child. The need to pass down traditional knowledge grew from that awakening into motherly responsibility. We wanted to honor our ancestors with respectful knowledge and practice. I am Lakota and Mohawk, two very different cultures, so there was much to learn and many opinions that came with it.

I became heavily involved with the Bay Area Native community and attended powwows and ceremonies in San Francisco and San Jose. I talked with as many elders as I could find. I researched my own history as well as my tribal nation’s history and its governments. A side effect to gaining more of that traditional knowledge was fighting the anger that came creeping in along with it.

I found myself dwelling on the pain of what I learned. I became angry and bitter during the holiday and ashamed to celebrate with my family when Thanksgiving rolled around. I especially struggled with this anger around the Thanksgiving holiday when I worked as a resource aide in an elementary school.

I remember the first time I saw a small kindergarten boy walk out of his classroom at the end of the day wearing a feather headdress made from construction paper. It was November, and I had been working at the elementary school for only two months when I saw him come skipping down the hallway with his backpack, purple and green cut feathers flapping back and forth across his blond head.

I froze. It had been years since I was in elementary school myself, and I had completely forgotten about this approach to celebrating Thanksgiving in our schools. I felt sick; I distinctly remember looking at the faces of the parents around me thinking, “Is no one else upset by this?”

 
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Bottom of FoThis happened to be the same time as the protests at Standing Rock, and all of the violence my friends went through was a stark contrast to this skipping boy. Here I was sneaking out on my breaks to watch my friends at Standing Rock get sprayed by ice cold water, beaten by police officers, thrown in dog kennels and bitten by security dogs, all while praying and wanting clean water, while another generation of children was being shown that dressing up as an “Indian” was fine on Thanksgiving. I realized the holiday was lifted on some imaginary pedestal as a joyous day of peace between two worlds, when historians know the truth to be much more violent.

I realized the holiday was lifted on some imaginary pedestal as a joyous day of peace between two worlds, when historians know the truth to be much more violent. 

At a Veterans Powwow in 2016, I expressed this anger and pain to an elder. This elder was a veteran and was attending the powwow specifically to participate in the “Wiping of Tears” ceremony. This is a healing ceremony that veterans participate in when healing from trauma or post-traumatic stress disorder. It’s part of their recovery from war and from service, and it addresses the release of a lot of anger. This elder took my hand while I waited with them for the ceremony and offered an opinion to me that challenged the anger I had developed for the Thanksgiving holiday. The elder said, “You can choose how you feel about this day, but it is a choice. Either let the day claim you, or choose to reclaim it.”

I can remember being taken aback by that statement. Can I choose to reclaim this holiday? Doesn’t that dishonor my relatives who have died because of those who came here as Pilgrims? Or maybe I dishonor them by holding on to anger.

So what could I do, or bring to my family, that would reclaim the day in a way that was both healing and power-giving? My family decided that we would spend the day celebrating the survival of our culture, our language, our foods. This was a decision I made for myself personally. I know that many in my nations are not at a place where they can approach Thanksgiving in this way, but for myself, and for my children, this works. There are also ceremonies ― like the Sunrise Ceremony on Alcatraz Island ― within the Bay Area Native community that help embrace healing on Thanksgiving. 

So what could I do, or bring to my family, that would reclaim the day in a way that was both healing and power-giving? 

The first time I attended the Alcatraz Sunrise Ceremony in San Francisco was in 2017. The Sunrise Ceremony is a special event organized by the Muwekma Ohlone people of San Francisco and other Bay Area Natives, to come together as a community in the darkness of Thanksgiving morning and partake in the reclamation of the holiday for our surviving people. There is always a large, warm bonfire in the center and a circle of relatives and guests that surround it.


The ceremony has many powerful speakers all focused on the positive reclamation and healing of the day. By the time the sun begins to rise, we raise our palms to the coming light and welcome the power of that healing. Last year at the ceremony, I happened to be standing beside former NFL player Colin Kaepernick, only realizing it after the sunlight began to illuminate those around me. He was there to observe and learn. Through natural conversation, I was gifted the opportunity to be able to share with Mr. Kaepernick some of the teachings of my cultures.


There was a moment after the ceremony when the two of us were walking through some of the restricted area on Alcatraz to see a mural painted by Alcatraz occupiers in the 1970s. He asked me what my opinion was on Thanksgiving, and the holiday in general. The only answer I could give him on that walk echoed the words of the elder that challenged my own feelings the year before: “I can choose how I feel about this day, but it is a choice. I can either let the holiday claim me, or choose to reclaim it.”


If I could ask one thing from my non-indigenous fellow Americans when it comes to Thanksgiving, I would ask that you refrain from teaching the romanticized version of the holiday. Read to your children about what it means to be thankful, what it means to heal and be a family. Learn as a family about the tribal nation that is local to where you live. Take time during dinner to recognize whose traditional lands you give thanks on. Take this holiday into your own hands and understand that not every Native will have good feelings about this day, and be accepting of that. We can all choose how we feel about this holiday, but it is always our own choice. 




 
Sankarachrya on California and Kutch Research Foundation on Naming of Grand Canyon  Peaks

 Kanchi Sankaracharya Sri Chandrasekarendra Saraswathi (1894-1994) who lived for one hundred years and attained Samadhi in 1994 was a great scholar, a voracious reader and a good speaker. His great scholarship is seen in his speeches that were published in seven volumes in Tamil. Some of his lectures were translated in to English. He was very fluent in Tamil, Sanskrit and English. He was met by famous leaders and prominent writers like Mahatma Gandhi, Indra Gandhi, Arthur Koestler, Paul Brunton, Milton Singer and the Queen of Greece to mention a few. Mr R Venkatraman, former President of India was a devotee of Sankaracharya.

Sri Sankaracharya made a passing remark about California (USA) in his talk on 12th of October 1932 in Chennai. His talks were published in 1933 (by Sri Kamakoti Kosathanam, Chennai).

When he gave a lot of examples to show Hinduism prevailed in different parts of the globe he also happened to mention California. He narrated the Puranic story of King Sagara and the incident where his horse was stolen by Indra during a yajna (fire sacrifice). When he sent all his 60,000 sons in search of the horse they travelled to the Patala Loka.(Please read my article about the ancient idioms and phrases under the title Is Brahmastra a Nuclear Weapon? in which I have explained sixty thousand means innumerable, countless, a lot).

When Sagara’s sons reached the netherworld (all the places down south of the Indian Sub-Continent were called Patala Loka in Sanskrit literature) they saw the horse near the seer Kapila who was in deep meditation. They thought that he was the one who took the horse and abused him. When Kapila opened his eyes all Sagara’s sons were burnt to ashes. King Sagara felt very sad. Baghiratha who was a descendant of Sagara vowed to bring the river Ganges to earth to dissolve the ashes so that they would go to heaven. Baghiratha tried for a very long time and ultimately succeeded. That is why the ocean is called ‘Sagar’ and Ganges was called ‘Bhagirathi’m (please read my article GreatEngineers of Ancient India in which I explained the symbolic language used by our forefathers about Ganges and Bhagiratha).

Kanchi Sankaracharya Swamiji, after narrating this story pointed out that a Horse Island and an Ash island near California. He humorously explained how the residents of Madurai call the city Marudai and how a Tamil folk called a Kuthirai (horse) Kuruthai - interchanging the letters. He continued to say that the words KAPILA ARANYA might have been misspelt as KALIFO ARANYA (California). Ash Island was the place where the sons of Sagaras were burnt to ashes. Horse Island was the place where they found the horse. But he never reopened this topic in his future lectures.

Now let us analyze it. English people who have migrated to USA, Canada, South Africa and Australia named the new places after their native towns or states. Now we have duplicates of those place names all over these countries. So it is possible that ancient Indians who went to different parts of the globe by planned voyages or by shipwrecked and washed ashore might have named them after the Sagara story. The modern atlas shows the existence of an Ash Island in Oregon, USA and a Horse Island in California. Oregon is the neighboring state of California.

A lot of research is going on about the link between the Mayas and the Hindus and the Red Indians and the Hindus. So far the researchers have found out amazing similarities between the North American and South American tribes and the Hindus. It may not be outright migration of the Hindus. But a few wayward adventurers might have gone there and left some indelible Hindu marks on those civilizations.

No one can miss the fact that Hinduism is the only religion without a name because it was the only one prevailed in the olden times. Foreigners named it as the Hindu religion. We call this nameless religion Sanatana Dharma (the Eternal Truth). Sanskrit is the only language which is not named after people because it was one of the oldest languages and spoken by all. All other languages were spoken only by their own people and so are named after that particular community.



200000 Year Old Shiva Temple in Colorado

Thursday, 29 January 2015

 

Three of the peaks of Grand Canyon are named after Hindu  Trinity, Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. A thorough research by Kutch Research Foundation is astonishing. Why it is Called VISHNU Schist mountain layer? Name is given by original tribes of the Red Indians, original GENETICALLY decedents of Asian origin, though they went there about 20,000 years ago by land when north Atlantic was frozen. They believe this place of their worshiping god. 
Shiva Linga Worship is Very Old and Ancient. US Museum of Natural History Found 200000 Year old Temple In USA at Colorado Hill. This Temple is 9000 Feet Height.23/11/1937 News Review of London Published this News.
The Puranic legends of India speak of many worlds., for  Example Pathala
As per the Puranas, when Vishnu, in the form of a young scholar Vamana, humbled Asura king Maha Bali, Maha Bali was banished to Pathala Loka.  When the Deva overcame the Asura in battles, the Asura were forced to migrate to thePathala Loka, the netherworld or the world below.
Where is this Pathala Loka?
People have conjured up images of Pathala Loka as being vertically downwards inside the earth.
The Puranic legends describe how the world is divided into different habitable regions. They list 14 regions, with 7 regions being the “nether worlds”, the Pathala Loka. The Puranic texts also give the notion of the Pathala Loka as being beyond the seas.
The words like location and locomotion are etymologically similar to the word, “Loka”. There are other technical texts that mention the location of Asura and their adversaries, the Sura. A sloka in Surya Siddhantha throws some light on the exact location of the Pathala. The relevant sloka is,
Surasuranam anyonyam diva – ratra viparyayaha. For Sura and Asura, days and nights are interchangeable
According to this sloka, Sura and Asura would have lived on opposite sides of the earth as only then can their days and nights be interchangeable. The region of the earth diametrically opposite to the Indian subcontinent is the central parts of South America which was the Pathala Loka of the Asura.

If we want a modern analogy, we have the British calling Australia as Down Under. That does not mean that Australia is in the underground areas of England. What the English really mean by the phrase “Down Under”, is that, for England, high in the northern hemisphere, Australia is on the other side of the earth, down in the south.
Similarly, there is another popular term in the US, called the China syndrome.
People often joke that, in case there were to be a nuclear mishap in America, then the nuclear explosion would burrow a hole beneath America, continue to burrow through the earth and come out on the other side of the earth, in China.

These phrases, Australia Down Under and China syndrome are examples of usage by people on one side of the globe to bring out the concept that, there is another side, opposite to them on the earth, which is also inhabited by people.

It is in this similar vein of expression that the ancient Indians had used the term Pathala Loka, as the area on the other side of the spherical earth. It is not to be erroneously understood as an underground cavern or kingdom.
To have had this knowledge, the ancient Indians must have known that the earth was not flat but spherical in nature.   So Pathala Ulakam is Called America. 
The Secret of Nagas. Written by Amish Tripathi. Million of Copies Selling book. In this book Mister Amith Tripathi said  Shiva was born about seven thousand years ago in Tibet. BI like Very Much. Mister Amith Tripathathi's Sense of Humour.
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Of course, ancient Indians knew Earth was flat. The Thamizh words for Earth is Boogolam. Boo refers Earth. Golam means spherical. Similarly, they addressed Planets as Kolgal. It means spheres.
So, Ancient Thamizhs, viz Ancient Indians, knew Earth wasn't flat.

Only the White man "discovered" it 300 years ago.
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Instead of saying ancient Indians, they have to say ancient Tamils who spread the civilization around the world.2×7(irelu) logam is our concept.
Unfortunately the "white" history taught in schools in every country in this world is all condensed, covered up, dated wrongly, and attributed to the wrong civilizations to follow suit with the current timeline of evolution. What we are taught is a lie, and stories like those in the Mahabharata are taught to be myths. Places like Angkor Wat, Giza pyramids and sphynx, ollantaytambo, tiwanaku, puma punku, etc. are at most 5,000 years old. Gobekli Tepe recently unearthed is considered by mainstream to be the oldest man made construction dated at 12,000 years old..
The mound builders and megalithic ruins in the United States aren't even recognized by historians and mainstream archaeology. The mounds are taught as Native American sites, but Native Americans say it was another culture before them. Same with the Incas in Peru and the megalithic sites they built on top of.
Anything that challenges the current standard of the start of civilizations, technology, and human evolution as a whole is buried, lost, or denied as hoax or just plain ignored.
The wrong people get credit for things that were discovered long before them.
Einstein was given credit for finding the radiation field surrounding and connecting us. But the early Hindu teachings talk of the Akasa, which is the same field of information surrounding, connecting, and running through everything in the universe that stores information of past, present, and future at the same time.
here is a history in this world far more advanced than the society we live in today. There is a lost technology and a lost understanding of our earth and universe, and the natural energy within it that was utilized and mastered in the distant past.
Lastly, we are taught that man did not exist at the time of the dinosaurs, but there are legitimate pieces of proof sunken into hard stone that show human footprints right next to dinosaur prints. Also there are the Ica burial stones found in tombs in Peru buries with skeletons that have elongated heads that show man and dinosaur in various scenes. I want to add that we didn't have an accurate recreation or depiction of dinosaurs in modern times until about the last 20-30 years. In the 1800's when we started to find fossils and bones the artistic renderings we're way off of what we now know they looked like...
These burial stones have amazingly accurate depictions of these dinosaurs alone, and with man. There are men killing these dinosaurs with knives and spears, and dinosaurs attacking and ripping the heads off of men.
I know it sounds ridiculous at first. But when you see actual evidence carved into stone that mirrors what we know these creatures to look like, it is hard to deny...\We are being lied to, and our true history is being hidden and almost nobody cares.
 
http://swamiindology.blogspot.in/2011/10/is-california-usa-kapila-aranya-kanchi.html

http://swamiindology.blogspot.in/2011/05/is-brahmastra-nuclear-weapon.html

http://harekrsna.com/sun/features/07-06/features370.htm

No issue if you differ partially, or even fully.

Every culture in history has the same legends, stories, and beginnings. I think the story of Hindu creation is the most beautifully written, but I digress... No matter which religion you or your ancestors follow, they all have the same beginnings, and the same teachings at their core. It's only in modern times that Western religion and some Eastern religions have twisted and contorted new testaments, and other writings/teachings to better serve their agendas and control their followers.
I was baptized Catholic, but I think the Catholic religion is the biggest criminal empire in the world. The majority of modern Christianity itself is a farce and a scam.
Organized religion is all a form of control that suppresses the true meaning of the teachings of their gospels, omit certain texts and gospels that don't fit their agenda, suppress the search for true enlightenment and the search for knowledge (Sorry for the rant)
But all that being said, I can't just say "follow whatever Dharma that was followed by your ancestors."
There is no way of knowing in Western religion exactly what our ancestors followed.
Instead I implore anyone searching to research each religion's beginnings. Read translations from cuneiform about creation, the Mahabharata creation, kemetion creation, Christianity, Muslim, and Jewish creation, etc. Read translations of the deadsea scrolls, and try to find the beginning origins of these religions. Find the oldest, and compare it to the Dharma you follow or have been made to follow, and surmise your own conclusion as to which is the closest to it's roots and how closely it mirrors your religion's history, teachings, and stories, and you will find which really call to you. Don't follow blindly, educate yourself and realize that Christianity is fairly new and echoes teachings from much older religions. Yet it claims to be the only true teachings and words of God. It's all the same.
The ancestors of living Native Americans arrived in what is now the United States at least 15,000 years ago, possibly much earlier, from Asia via Beringia. A vast variety of peoples, societies and cultures subsequently developed. Native Americans were greatly affected by the European colonization of the Americas, which began in 1492, and their population declined precipitously mainly due to introduced diseases as well as warfare, including biological warfare,[3] territorial confiscation and slavery. After its creation, the United States, as part of its policy of settler colonialism, waged war and perpetrated massacres[4] against many Native American peoples, removed them from their ancestral lands, and subjected them to one-sided treaties and to discriminatory government policies into the 20th century. Since the 1960s, Native American self-determination movements have resulted in changes to the lives of Native Americans, though there are still many contemporary issues faced by Native Americans. Today, there are over five million Native Americans in the United States, 78% of whom live outside reservations.
When the United States was created, established Native American tribes were generally considered semi-independent nations, as they generally lived in communities separate from British settlers. The federal government signed treaties at a government-to-government level until the Indian Appropriations Act of 1871 ended recognition of independent native nations, and started treating them as "domestic dependent nations" subject to federal law. This law did preserve the rights and privileges agreed to under the treaties, including a large degree of tribal sovereignty. For this reason, many (but not all) Native American reservations are still independent of state law and actions of tribal citizens on these reservations are subject only to tribal courts and federal l
All the discovery are from Tamil world, That's why nowadays also Tamil and Tamil Nadu people and their history, scientific innovation, culture, war history, architecture, humanity, Great kings Chera, Chola and pandiyaa, Way of living life, agriculture are dig deep by interest groups in India. Now these truth coming out very faster.
Folks, I just happen to come across this article. I live in Colorado, USA and am curious about the Siva Linga they have mentioned. I've lived here for about 25 Years, but not heard of such linga. I would definitely love to investigate more and post it here. Also, would like to clarify about a few statements made in this blog. First, the article clearly states that the opposite side of India (poles) is not USA, but South America. It is also visualized in the image above. So, Colorado is not the opposite side and also not the Asura Lokha (I'm relived). Also, Colorado is full of mountains, I mean a lot of peaks, more than 50 at least, so to find which one has this Linga, it's going to be tough. I am sure people can reach out to the Denver museum of Natural History and see if they have any information (as it says in this article).
Dr. BHUDIA ON GRAND CANYON HINDU NAMED PEAKS
 KUTCH SCIENCE FOUNDATION
Think about, Who named it a 1.75 billion year old Precambrian Vishnu Schist!  What is the Meaning of the Vishnu Schist (Shishtha)? Why is 1.75 billion to 1.99 billion near old?  Research on it!! We can haves a full lecture on the subject!
And there is also Kutch, called Kutch Colorado from where the Colorado River flows to Grand Canyon! The Native Indians tribe is called Kachi, means Mother land – original Tribes from India
Most visitors to the Grand Canyon and Colorado River just visit the place as tourist to enjoy the beauty of the river valley. But geologist need to go to the bottom of the valley of the river Colorado grand canyon. One Need to go to Bottom of the Grand Canyon rafting the river Colorado. So the can really visualize the all layers of the Grand Canyon and most interesting is its base layer called Vishnu Schist MOUNTAIN LAYER.
Why it is Called VISHNU Schist mountain layer? Name is given by original tribes of the Red Indians, original GENETICALLY decedents of Asian origin, though they went there about 20,000 years ago by land when north Atlantic was frozen. They believe this place of their worshiping god.
The VISHNU Mountain is geologically about 1.7 to 1.8 billion years (Marine BACTERIAL STROMATOLITES developed before this time 1.99  billion  years in the SEA when land was the under water dating back to this time 1.99Bn years  old and was 9km height even higher than Everest. Same as PURANs suggest the timing of the "LAND MASS COME OUT OF THE SEA during VARAH AVATAR" first incarnation was MATSHYA - Fish in the SEA (geologically and  in mythology  according the calculation in PURAN as well, the oldest vertebrate on the Earth) and then was the VARAH Incarnation of The LORD VISHNU which hooked out the LAND MASS from the sea by TOOTH tusk.
Now let’s check with calculative PURAN Calendar to compare the geology. Though will be difficult to calculate without good Maths.
SHRUSTI START( ARAMBHA) TIME 47400 x 360 1.71E+07 17064000
TILL PRESENT SATYAYUGA 1.95E+09 1953720000
PASSED TRETAYUGA 1296000
PASSED DWAPARYUGA 864000
PRESENT KALIYUGA PASSED YEARS 5119
AT AD 2009 FROM KALP START (ARAMBHA)TIME 1.97E+09 1972949119
Though it was a mountain but now is at the bottom layer of all sediment layers of the valley! How that might have happened? A documentary will be help full to understand this process of millions of years.
The major geologic exposures in the Grand Canyon range in age from the 2 billion year old Vishnu Schist at the bottom of the Inner Gorge to the 230 million year old Kaibab Limestone on the Rim. Interestingly, there is a gap of about one billion years between the stratum that is about 500 million years old and the lower level, which is about 1.5 billion years old. That indicates a period of erosion between two periods of deposition.
An exhibit with different rock layers cut out from a canyon wall. Grand Canyon's three sets of rocks, showing lithology, age and thickness of individual units. For more information on the geology of each of the formations exposed in Grand Canyon see these USGS sites: Grand Canyon and Colorado Plateau.
Where Vishnu is His third VARAH incarnation when earth came out of sea water.
Schist - means in SANSKRIT - remnant remainder
Vishnu schist means the remnant of the first land which came out of the sea water during the Vishnu’s third VARAH incarnation
CALCULATION match with geological time scale
SHRUSTI START (ARAMBHA) TIME as PURANs say
47400 Divya Vrash (cosmic years) x 360 (ratio of cosmic and human earth years) = 1.71E+07
17064000 + TILL PRESENT LAST SATYAYUGA =1.95E+09
=1953720000 +PASSED TRETAYUGA 1296000+Dwapar Yuga 864000+ KALI years 5119=1972949119 =1.97Bn years
RADIOISOTOPE DATING OF THE GRAND CANYON ROCKS:
ANOTHER DEVASTATING FAILURE FOR LONG-AGE GEOLOGY
Deep inside the Inner Gorge of Grand Canyon, northern Arizona, are the crystalline basements rocks that probably date back even to the Creation Week itself. Clearly visible in the canyon walls are the light-colored granites, such as the Zoroaster Granite, which are stark against the darker, folded strata of the Vishnu Schist and the other metamorphic rock units of the Granite Gorge Metamorphic Suite1 (see lowest purple and green shading in diagram). These are former sedimentary and volcanic strata that have been transformed by heat and pressure, possibly during the intense upheavals when the dry land was formed on Day 3 of Creation Week.2 Among these metamorphosed volcanic strata are amphibolite, belonging to the Brahma Schist. These were originally basalt lava flows several meters to tens of meters thick. In some outcrops pillow structures have been preserved, testimony to the basalt lavas having originally erupted and flowed under water onto the Creation Week ocean floor. Metamorphic rocks are not always easy to date using radioisotopes. Results obtained usually signify the “date” of the metamorphism, but they may also yield the
2) “age” of the original volcanic (or sedimentary) rock. The “age” or “date” is calculated from the amount of the daughter isotope produced by rdioactive decay of the parent isotope. In Grand Canyon, the “date” of metamorphism of the basalt lavas to form these Brahma amphibolite  has been determined as 1690-1710 Ma (million years ago), based on U-Pb dating of minerals in the overlying Vishnu Schist and underlying Rama Schist that formed during the metamorphism.3,4 It is also claimed that the original basalt lavas were erupted between 1741 and 1750 Ma, based on U-Pb dating of “original” zircon grains in metamorphosed felsic (granitic) volcanic layers within the Brahma and Rama Schists.4,5
Twenty-seven Brahma amphibolite samples were collected from various Inner Gorge outcrops as part of the RATE (Radioisotopes and the Age of The Earth) project. These included seven samples from a 150 meter long and 2 meter wide amphibolite body outcropping just upstream from the mouth of Clear Creek at river mile 84 (measured from Lees Ferry). All 27 samples were sent to two well-credentialed internationally recognized, commercial laboratories for radioisotope analyses—potassium-argon (KAr) at a Canadian laboratory, and rubidium-strontium (Rb-Sr), samarium-neodymium (Sm-Nd), and lead-lead (Pb-Pb), at an Australian laboratory. Both laboratories use standard, best-practice procedures on state-of-the-art equipment.
Results
The model K-Ar ages for each of the samples ranged from 405.1±10 Ma to 2574.2±73 Ma. Furthermore, the seven samples from the small amphibolite unit near Clear Creek, which should all be the same age because they belong to the same metamorphosed basalt lava flow, yielded K-Ar model ages ranging from 1060.4±28 Ma to 2574.2±73 Ma. This includes two samples only 0.84 meters apart that yielded K-Ar model ages of 1205.3±31 and 2574.2±73 Ma. The computer program Isoplot6 was used to plot isochrones and calculate isochrones ages from the other radioisotope analyses. The best isochrones   plots, where all the variation from the line of best fit to the data incorporates all the analytical errors, yielded an Rb-Sr isochronal age of 1240±84 Ma, an Sm-Nd isochronal age of 1655±40 Ma, and a Pb-Pb isochronal age of 1883±53 Ma.
Most people believe that when the different radioisotope dating methods are used on the same rock unit they all yield the same age. However, the radioisotope dating of these Grand Canyon rocks clearly demonstrates that the disagreement, or isochronal discordance, is pronounced. Even when the calculated error margins are taken into account the different radioisotope dating methods yield completely different “ages” that cannot be reconciled—1240±84 Ma (Rb-Sr), 1655±40 Ma (Sm-Nd), and 1883±53 Ma (Pb-Pb)   (see diagram). None of the obtained isochrones “ages” corresponds to the “date” for any recognized event, neither the original lava eruptions nor the subsequent metamorphism. And the K-Ar model “ages” are so widely divergent from one another (ranging from 405.1±10 Ma to 2574.2±73 Ma), even from very closely spaced samples from the same outcrop of the same original lava flow, as to be useless for “dating” any event.
Yet the RATE research has uncovered much evidence, including the patterns of these discordances between the “dates” from the different radioisotope systems,10 that radioisotope decay rates were accelerated in a global catastrophic event in the recent past.11 For example, if accelerated radioisotope decay occurred, then alpha-decaying radioisotopes would yield older isochronal “ages” than beta-decaying radioisotopes, which is exactly the pattern in the Brahma amphibolite (see diagram above). Because the different radioisotopes are dating the same geologic event, to have produced different “dates” has to mean that the parent radioisotopes have decayed at different rates over the same time period. In other words, the decay of the parent radioisotopes was accelerated by different amounts, the decay of those yielding older “ages” (the alpha-decoyer) having been accelerated more. Obviously, if radioisotope decay was accelerated, say during the Genesis Flood, then the radioisotope decay “clocks” could never be relied upon to “date” rocks as many millions of years old. To the contrary, the rocks could still only be a few thousand years old.
The radioisotope methods, long touted as irrefutably dating the earth’s rocks as countless millions of years old, have repeatedly failed to provide reliable and meaningful absolute ages for Grand Canyon rock layers. Irreconcilable disagree- The isochrones “ages” yielded by the different parent radioisotopes for the Brahma amphibolite  plotted against the present half -life  (decay rates) of those radioisotopes according to their mode of decay (Note that there is total disagreement between the “dates,” and the alpha-decay “dates” are much older than the beta-decay “date.”)
But generally we hear a speculative argument that ione of the early geologists (Charles Walcott) that worked on defining the GC's stratigraphy in the 1800s was an aficionado of Eastern religions. He named many of the formations after Eastern religious themes based on the opinions expressed by historians 
Lost Cave City in the Grand Canyon?
Did an ancient civilization live in caves below the Grand Canyon? This is as vague a statement as wondering why some of the ancient Mesoamerican people depicted their gods as white men or the Olmec gods looked African. Stretching the imagination ... perhaps whatever was found in the Grand Canyon caves discussed below, is linked to Ancient Alien Theory. It is interesting to speculate on ancient Egyptians or Tibetans flying to the Grand Canyon in Vimanas, but, to date, there is no tangible proof to support these claims.
Archeological Cover-ups
Perhaps the most amazing suppression of all is the excavation of an Egyptian tomb by the Smithsonian itself in Arizona. A lengthy front page story of the Phoenix Gazette on April 5, 1909, gave a highly detailed report of the discovery and excavation of a rock-cut vault by an expedition led by a Professor S.A. Jordan of the Smithsonian. The Smithsonian, however, claims to have absolutely no knowledge of the discovery or its discoverers.
Front page of The Phoenix Gazette of April 5th, 1909
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The World Explorers Club decided to check on this story by calling the Smithsonian in Washington, D.C., though we felt there was little chance of getting any real information. After speaking briefly to an operator, we were transferred to a Smithsonian staff archaeologist, and a woman's voice came on the phone and identified herself. I told her that I was investigating a story from a 1909 Phoenix newspaper article about the Smithsonian Institution's having excavated rock-cut vaults in the Grand Canyon where Egyptian artifacts had been discovered, and whether the Smithsonian Institution could give me any more information on the subject.
She said, "The first thing I can tell you, before we go any further, is that no Egyptian artifacts of any kind have ever been found in North or South America. Therefore, I can tell you that the Smithsonian Institute has never been involved in any such excavations."
She was quite helpful and polite but, in the end, knew nothing. Neither she nor anyone else with whom I spoke could find any record of the discovery or either G.E. Kinkaid and Professor S.A. Jordan. While it cannot be discounted that the entire story is an elaborate newspaper hoax, the fact that it was on the front page, named the prestigious Smithsonian Institution, and gave a highly detailed story that went on for several pages, lends a great deal to its credibility.
It is hard to believe such a story could have come out of thin air. If this story is true it would radically change the current view that there was no transoceanic contact in pre-Columbian times, and that all American Indians, on both continents, are descended from Ice Age explorers who came across the Bering Strait.
Is the idea that ancient Egyptians came to the Arizona area in the ancient past so objectionable and preposterous that it must be covered up? Perhaps the Smithsonian Institution is more interested in maintaining the status quo than rocking the boat with astonishing new discoveries that overturn previously accepted academic teachings. Historian and linguist Carl Hart, editor of Word Explorer, then obtained a hiker's map of the Grand Canyon from a bookstore in Chicago.
Poring over the map, we were amazed to see that much of the area on the north side of the canyon has Egyptian names. The area around Ninety-four Mile Creek and Trinity Creek had areas (rock formations, apparently) with names like Tower of Set, Tower of Ra, Horus Temple, Osiris Temple, and Isis Temple.
In the Haunted Canyon area were such names as the Cheops Pyramid, the Buddha Cloister, Buddha Temple, Manu Temple and Shiva Temple. Was there any relationship between these places and the alleged Egyptian discoveries in the Grand Canyon?
This entire area with the Egyptian and Hindu place names in the Grand Canyon is a forbidden zone - no one is allowed into this large area. We could only conclude that this was the area where the vaults were located. Yet today, this area is curiously off-limits to all hikers and even, in large part, park personnel. We called a state archaeologist at the Grand Canyon, and were told that the early explorers had just liked Egyptian and Hindu names, but that it was true that this area was off limits to hikers or other visitors, because of dangerous caves.
I believe that the discerning reader will see that if only a small part of the "Smithsonian gate" evidence is true, then our most hallowed archaeological institution has been actively involved in suppressing evidence for advanced American cultures, evidence for ancient voyages of various cultures to North America, evidence for anomalistic giants and other oddball artifacts, and evidence that tends to disprove the official dogma that is now the history of North America. The Smithsonian's Board of Regents still refuses to open its meetings to the news media or the public. If Americans were ever allowed inside the 'nation's attic', as the Smithsonian has been called, what skeletons might they find?
An Indian Legend
In connection with this story, it is notable that among the Hopi Indians the tradition is told that their ancestors once lived in an underworld in the Grand Canyon till dissension arose between the good and the bad, the people of one heart and the people of two hearts. Machetto, who was their chief, counseled them to leave the underworld, but there was no way out. The chief then caused a tree to grow up and pierce the roof of the underworld, and then the people of one heart climbed out. They tarried by Paisisvai (Red River), which is the Colorado, and grew grain and corn.
They sent out a message to the Temple of the Sun, asking the blessing of peace, good will and rain for people of one heart. That messenger never returned, but today at the Hopi villages at sundown can be seen the old men of the tribe out on the housetops gazing toward the sun, looking for the messenger. When he returns, their lands and ancient dwelling place will be restored to them. That is the tradition.
Among the engravings of animals in the cave is seen the image of a heart over the spot where it is located. The legend was learned by W.E. Rollins, the artist, during a year spent with the Hopi Indians.
There are two theories of the origin of the Egyptians. One is that they came from Asia; another that the racial cradle was in the upper Nile region. Heeren, an Egyptologist, believed in the Indian origin of the Egyptians. The discoveries in the Grand Canyon may throw further light on human evolution and prehistoric ages.